build a b series or build my d series motor ?

[Korman]

Originally Posted by AGENT_47

Why are you quoting me and not the OP?

I was basing my answer on the fact the OP ALREADY has a D in his car right now. So it would be better for him to build that what he already owns if his budget is limited, Bisimoto already has shown the D is a very capable engine.

This thread is about answering the OP's question in regards to what he already owns in his possession in this case a D series.

I was basing my reply on the fact the OP already has a d in his car now and replying to the "usual HT reply" Oh just drop a B in there D's are only for dd , you wanna tell that to Bisimoto?

This isn't a " oh well I do not own any engines at all what should I get" thread is a b or d better?

Depends on many variables, what's your budget? what's your mechanical skills, etc.

dollar for dollar you can go a LONG way with a D series if you have some basic mechanical skills, especially when you walk outside and the engine is ALREADY IN YOUR FRICKEN CAR


The OP states he already own a D engine so that's what the replies are based upon NOT whether the B series is the holy grail engine and all D owners should bow to its supremacy.

I was quoting you because what you said is a fallacy. I am in no way against boosting the single cam. I am, however, against trying to compare the B and D series like they are similar in performance because of the engine output torque. If engine output torque was all that mattered, we would all be getting big ponderous crossplane V8's.

I was arguing against all of the flawed arguments stating false facts. Also, he was asking if she should build a B series or not as well, so he is entitled to all the facts so that *he* can determine the best bang for his buck. Some people don't want to tear apart an engine, change its rods and whatnot. If he doesn't want to do that, then he needs to know his platform's limitations in order to determine if he should keep what he has or work with something different.

Oh, and about the engine already being in the car, what good is that if it has to be yanked in order to change the rods? Not that there is anything wrong with that, but if he wants to build the D-series, he effectively has to pull the engine, take it apart, put it back together, then put it back in the car. If he has to go through the work of pulling the engine, he may just feel like putting a different one in if it fits the needs.

The overall point isn't if the D-series is a capable engine. Under boost it is. However, with all other things being equal, a B series will make more power than a D series. Throwing Bisi around is your inequality. Build skill and tuning is part of the equation.

The answer to the question of which engine is a better base to start with, well, that's kind of a dumb question. If everyone was offered that they can either have a free B16 swap or a D16 swap, we'd all take the B16.

However, determining which setup will give you the best bang for your buck, well, that's far more complicated. Depends on what you want and are comfortable doing, how much power you are looking for, how much you are willing to spend, if you are comfortable tearing apart an engine, if you want it to pass emissions/inspection, If you want to DD it, etc...

[Nichelson_Performance]

LOL I'm done arguing my point about pros and cons between the two

OP I give up, pick what you want based on your money situation, both engines are GREAT proven power makers it comes down to the dollar issue......PERIOD

[AGENT_47]

If I had to choose B18C1 all day long

Drops right in , no fuss , can be safely boosted stock to a respectable 300whp

[TannerEK]

I have a built b18b turbo in my ek hatch and its well worth it, but depending on how much itll cost you, id stay with d series unless its some what cheap

[hoffmanb16]

The D series is a good engine that can make great power but when someone says that it is Superior to the B it proves that they are slow in the head. Tell that to a Honda engineer that designs these engines and he would likely slap you or spit in your face.

[allmotorwill]

id do the single cam for now and then do b serious just in case u blow it u wont spend a million 2 fix it

[Deetz]

Originally Posted by allmotorwill

id do the single cam for now and then do b serious just in case u blow it u wont spend a million 2 fix it

I don't know how much swaps cost everywhere else, but where i live, i can buy a whole B18B swap for $500

[Alexpbnj]

yeah im considering a b18b1 longblock a b16 tranny and a nice turbo setup i appreciate all of the comments and information you all gave me sorry about starting an arguement between the two as you cant really compare them to one another just gotta pick one or the other.

[Deetz]

You are welcome Nothing to be sorry about, the D vs B series thing happens all the time. People are always convinced that the particular setup they are running in their own cars are the best, lol

[hoffmanb16]

Originally Posted by Alexpbnj

yeah im considering a b18b1 longblock a b16 tranny and a nice turbo setup i appreciate all of the comments and information you all gave me sorry about starting an arguement between the two as you cant really compare them to one another just gotta pick one or the other.

You will be very happy with this engine, It is a turbo motor tho, It will only really shine with boooooost... Make sure you dont back out on the turbo.

[jdmchinoCDN]

in the end a B series motor part for part has great potetial and reliablility then a D.

but you can build a badd ass D but then any build bad ass B will still be far greater

[jdmchinoCDN]

turbo anything and it will PWN

[Alexpbnj]

yeah im probably going to just run it completely stock , with a nice turbo setup and an awesome tune. thats what alot of people i see are doing with the ls turbo , im just in search of a decent turbo setup that doesnt cost an arm and a leg